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I wrap it in fabric in a color to match the color of the yarn. I place them inside the purse, to make the bottom sturdy and flat. They are fully removable, before any wash. I never had any problems with them. They last in my purses for decades! Shampoo bottles, and milk jugs are round, not flat and not wide enough. They are not suitable for bag bottoms. Plastic is not environmentally friendly. Other than that I don't use carboard in any other projects. [useip] => 209.202.204.220 [port] => 59336 [invisible] => 0 [anonymous] => 0 [usesig] => 0 [htmlon] => 0 [bbcodeoff] => -1 [smileyoff] => -1 [parseurloff] => 0 [attachment] => 0 [rate] => 0 [ratetimes] => 0 [status] => 0 [tags] => 0 [comment] => 0 [replycredit] => 0 [position] => 94 [hotrecommended] => 1 ) [3] => Array ( [pid] => 36032087 [fid] => 280 [tid] => 538247 [first] => 0 [author] => Niccrochet [authorid] => 350380 [subject] => [dateline] => 1666410897 [message] => thank you! I like the use of well washed plastics if needed but always make sure I bind the edges with electrical tape to ensure no damage to the fabric. I also like to use a piece of felt in the faces to provide more support for safety eyes, I've found this reduces the chance of them coming out as they aren't then just placed in holes. I also melt and flatten the backs to widen the area. I'm so paranoid about safety eyes but for some projects they look so much better than embroidered eyes! [useip] => 124.169.22.64 [port] => 40708 [invisible] => 0 [anonymous] => 0 [usesig] => 1 [htmlon] => 0 [bbcodeoff] => -1 [smileyoff] => -1 [parseurloff] => 0 [attachment] => 0 [rate] => 0 [ratetimes] => 0 [status] => 0 [tags] => 0 [comment] => 0 [replycredit] => 0 [position] => 9 [hotrecommended] => 1 ) [4] => Array ( [pid] => 43575989 [fid] => 280 [tid] => 538247 [first] => 0 [author] => LosHiceYo [authorid] => 367685 [subject] => [dateline] => 1699262974 [message] => In my case, it depends! Sometimes, using cardboard is much better and more sustainable than using some recycled plastics. Furthermore, if you look for maintaining certain sustainability, plastics shouldn't be your first option... In addition, when you make something that you need to wash, then I wouldn't go for any support material, neither plastics nor cardboard, and I play with shapes, gauge and wise filling... That's how I do it, but I asume everyone has their own tricks! [useip] => 46.24.142.82 [port] => 15262 [invisible] => 0 [anonymous] => 0 [usesig] => 1 [htmlon] => 0 [bbcodeoff] => -1 [smileyoff] => -1 [parseurloff] => 0 [attachment] => 0 [rate] => 0 [ratetimes] => 0 [status] => 0 [tags] => [comment] => 0 [replycredit] => 0 [position] => 61 [hotrecommended] => 1 ) [5] => Array ( [pid] => 43273380 [fid] => 280 [tid] => 538247 [first] => 0 [author] => BlueTanager [authorid] => 374365 [subject] => [dateline] => 1697771228 [message] => I was thinking about this the other day. I see many amigurumis using cardboards. As bad as plastic is, upcycling is a very good thing in this case indeed! If I can throw away just a bit less plastic today, why not? Sometimes I "sandwich" sew the plastic between 2 pieces of felt fabric to make sure the borders won't wear the yarn overtime with handling. [useip] => 172.71.238.47 [port] => 56244 [invisible] => 0 [anonymous] => 0 [usesig] => 1 [htmlon] => 0 [bbcodeoff] => -1 [smileyoff] => -1 [parseurloff] => 0 [attachment] => 0 [rate] => 0 [ratetimes] => 0 [status] => 0 [tags] => 0 [comment] => 0 [replycredit] => 0 [position] => 54 [hotrecommended] => 1 ) [6] => Array ( [pid] => 35096074 [fid] => 280 [tid] => 538247 [first] => 0 [author] => Lilac.Exp [authorid] => 349642 [subject] => [dateline] => 1662217915 [message] => That makes a lot of sense. I always try to think what would happen to my work if a child got hold of it - would the eyes be secure to prevent being swallowed? Would you be able to clean it? Is there anything sharp to hurt a child? Cardboard would be a big mess if a baby were to chew on the toy I have made :) [useip] => 54.239.6.177 [port] => 51558 [invisible] => 0 [anonymous] => 0 [usesig] => 1 [htmlon] => 0 [bbcodeoff] => -1 [smileyoff] => 0 [parseurloff] => 0 [attachment] => 0 [rate] => 0 [ratetimes] => 0 [status] => 0 [tags] => 0 [comment] => 0 [replycredit] => 0 [position] => 4 [hotrecommended] => 1 ) [7] => Array ( [pid] => 43350676 [fid] => 280 [tid] => 538247 [first] => 0 [author] => Lavenderrose [authorid] => 372332 [subject] => [dateline] => 1698147381 [message] => I wish I had thought of this! I used a 23cm diameter thick cardboard oval for the backing of a crocheted elephant head wall mount... I think I'll take it off the wall and switch the cardboard out for something a bit more durable (and waterproof!!) 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I also use plastic and it is a way to recycle too. I also like the plastic folders and file boxes. It depends what you use it for. 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I always try to think what would happen to my work if a child got hold of it - would the eyes be secure to prevent being swallowed? Would you be able to clean it? Is there anything sharp to hurt a child? 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I like the use of well washed plastics if needed but always make sure I bind the edges with electrical tape to ensure no damage to the fabric. I also like to use a piece of felt in the faces to provide more support for safety eyes, I've found this reduces the chance of them coming out as they aren't then just placed in holes. I also melt and flatten the backs to widen the area. I'm so paranoid about safety eyes but for some projects they look so much better than embroidered eyes! [useip] => 124.169.22.64 [port] => 40708 [invisible] => 0 [anonymous] => 0 [usesig] => 1 [htmlon] => 0 [bbcodeoff] => -1 [smileyoff] => -1 [parseurloff] => 0 [attachment] => 0 [rate] => 0 [ratetimes] => 0 [status] => 0 [tags] => 0 [comment] => 0 [replycredit] => 0 [position] => 9 ) [19] => Array ( [pid] => 36082038 [fid] => 280 [tid] => 538247 [first] => 0 [author] => Verdemiau [authorid] => 329345 [subject] => [dateline] => 1666619957 [message] => Thank you for helping us! 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KatharinaV-NL Publish time 2022-6-24 20:37

If you can: do not use cardboard

Dear friends,

Again today I saw the advice to use cardboard in projects.
It is used to give shape, like in half a crocheted lemon or the soles of a doll.

Please think long term with your precious projects and do not use cardboard as that disintegrates / goes bad in time.
And you cannot hand wash the item.

What can you use?
Usually I'm not a fan of plastics, but in this case I am :)
A good long lasting alternative is the plastic of shampoo bottles or milk jugs or.....
This will last much longer + you can safely hand wash the item.

:D Have a nice day & lots of fun creating beautiful things!

smarj Publish time 2022-10-5 17:47

thank you for sharing i use plastic canvas

kvetka Publish time 2024-8-16 06:53

The only place I use cardboard is as a purse bottoms. I wrap it in fabric in a color to match the color of the yarn. I place them inside the purse, to make the bottom sturdy and flat. They are fully removable, before any wash. I never had any problems with them. They last in my purses for decades!Shampoo bottles, and milk jugs are round, not flat and not wide enough. They are not suitable for bag bottoms. Plastic is not environmentally friendly. Other than that I don't use carboard in any other projects.

Niccrochet Publish time 2022-10-22 11:54

thank you! I like the use of well washed plastics if needed but always make sure I bind the edges with electrical tape to ensure no damage to the fabric.

I also like to use a piece of felt in the faces to provide more support for safety eyes, I've found this reduces the chance of them coming out as they aren't then just placed in holes. I also melt and flatten the backs to widen the area. I'm so paranoid about safety eyes but for some projects they look so much better than embroidered eyes!

LosHiceYo Publish time 2023-11-6 17:29

In my case, it depends! Sometimes, using cardboard is much better and more sustainable than using some recycled plastics. Furthermore, if you look for maintaining certain sustainability, plastics shouldn't be your first option... In addition, when you make something that you need to wash, then I wouldn't go for any support material, neither plastics nor cardboard, and I play with shapes, gauge and wise filling...

That's how I do it, but I asume everyone has their own tricks!

BlueTanager Publish time 2023-10-20 11:07

I was thinking about this the other day. I see many amigurumis using cardboards. As bad as plastic is, upcycling is a very good thing in this case indeed! If I can throw away just a bit less plastic today, why not?
Sometimes I "sandwich" sew the plastic between 2 pieces of felt fabric to make sure the borders won't wear the yarn overtime with handling.

Lilac.Exp Publish time 2022-9-3 23:11

That makes a lot of sense. I always try to think what would happen to my work if a child got hold of it - would the eyes be secure to prevent being swallowed? Would you be able to clean it? Is there anything sharp to hurt a child?
Cardboard would be a big mess if a baby were to chew on the toy I have made :)

Lavenderrose Publish time 2023-10-24 19:36

I wish I had thought of this! I used a 23cm diameter thick cardboard oval for the backing of a crocheted elephant head wall mount... I think I'll take it off the wall and switch the cardboard out for something a bit more durable (and waterproof!!)

Pips77 Publish time 2022-11-6 23:58

thank you for the advice. I often use cardbord, but only in projects I keep myself. Maybe I should use more plastic. Sometimes I find it hard to find plastic that is not curving too much.

Aislinn Publish time 2024-3-28 10:11

Thankyouverymuchforsharingthisgreatpattern

petrica Publish time 2022-12-10 08:17

It is true, I agree with you. I also use plastic and it is a way to recycle too. I also like the plastic folders and file boxes. It depends what you use it for.

meetje138 Publish time 2022-7-6 05:36

Never thought of this and you are so right

Cleotinka Publish time 2022-8-19 22:18

thanks for the tip

sandrine.annonc Publish time 2022-9-17 16:49

thank you for the tip

MT19464 Publish time 2022-10-19 12:28

thank you very much

MT19464 Publish time 2022-10-21 09:55

Thank you very much

Verdemiau Publish time 2022-10-24 21:59

Thank you for helping us!
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